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 So being new here and being new to the Fire Service, I have a few questions here, but first my background , I have over 30 years of public service [ retired Trooper ] , recently appointed to fill a vacant seat , Now understand I have no real background so this is a time for me to learn.  Thanks to my new son in law [ happens to be a Fire Chief and my daughters both Wildland firefighters] he convinced me that I should submit my letter to the Board to be considered. So  I have been appointted to fill out term of the office [ 2 years ] and was put in charge of Trucks / Equipment .Now with that all being said here we go;

 How do you decide if the request the Chief makes is needed? Should I base my decsion on the Chiefs judgement?


 How bad are some these salesman that sell the equipment?


  Now take into account that I am taking training this weekend with other newly elected commissioners , so I know no question is stupid . Thanks for your time .




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Comment by Jack Wesson on April 18, 2011 at 8:58am
Well , have to tell you things are rolling along ok made got thru the Board meeting and things are moving along without a hitch, thanks to all of you
Comment by Jack Wesson on March 31, 2011 at 10:01am

Well come to find out he was aware of it , he choose to ignore it and not to comply ,and I was handed this mess yesterday afternoon, lucky the internet has brought me up to speed on this regulation and i have a meeting with him tonight so that we can discuss it and see if and how we can work on getting implemented so we are not fined by PESH. I went back into the Boards minutes and found that he was told yo do it and get it done yet that was a year ago. So now the chairman wants it done  for this reason ,

Have to be honest that this is a new adventure for me and with a Computer , i am finding out more things . A part of me wishes 30 years ago that i should have choosen to be a firefighter instaed of a Trooper. But you can't go back only forward.

Comment by Art "Chief Reason" Goodrich on March 31, 2011 at 9:25am


If I'm understanding you, you asked the chief about a regulation that he didn't know anything about?

That's not uncommon.

I don't expect my chief to know all of the standards, laws and regulations. I expect him to have a fire department competently trained.

He and I work together on making sure that we are compliant.

More often than not, I read or hear about it before he does.

So, I educate him and he does likewise for me.

But, I can't emphasize enough that the liabilities are addressed.

Comment by Jack Wesson on March 31, 2011 at 6:56am

Thanks guy's , My biggest concern is the new mandates i have been reading up on here in NY and the CHiefs seems to blink , i questioned him regarding on the Personal Rescue law and he just looked at me. I believe in the Book it's there for a reason [ must be those years in the troopers].

Comment by Jan Skok on March 30, 2011 at 2:31pm


 Most Volunteer Fire Companies Chief's only ask for new equipment to get up to date or to protect their fellow firefighters from equipment -truck that have seen their time. Volunteer Co.'s can get grants to help with funds both for the township-county-town and the fire comapny. I believe most if not all Chief's are honest, but you have to get to know them to make sure everything is in the up and up.

                                                Best Regards, Jack

                                                        Jan Skok



Comment by Art "Chief Reason" Goodrich on March 30, 2011 at 1:23pm

Chief should know that money is tight and I would think that he wouldn't waste money on something that they didn't need.

Many of the sales people that populate fire equipment companies are firefighters or have been firefighters. Many of them won't sell it if they don't use it themselves. In the normal course of conversation, ask them. If they say, "No; I'm not a firefighter"; then, I would be leery. You got to trust the brothers.

Comment by Mike France on March 30, 2011 at 12:38pm

Jack , first off Congradulations, Specking as a Chief , i would think that his choice or decsion would backed , But as you and i have spoken about each Commissioner has different thoughts on subject matter. Plus being you serve a district next to ours i will not venture any further other if you trust your Chief then it's what he feels is needed.


As far as Salesman , they are what they are salesman , compare and research the products and follow state purchasing law.

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