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Landmark Restaurant in Fairbanks lost to fire.

It's sad to see anything lost to a fire but when you weigh in the "Risk vs. Benefit" the lives of innocent bystanders and our safety comes first and the property and any extension to existing structures that may be near by come second. I was out of town in my nice warm ice house when I got a phone call about the fire when it happened. By all accounts of what I have heard about the incident, it sounds like the fire was burning for some time and had gone on undiscovered for quite some time before it was discovered by an employee who acted quickly to get everyone out. While the fire, possibly in the smoldering state in the ceiling for awhile when the employee according to the paper said he lifted a ceiling til and heard a whoosh, it was just a matter of time before it got that much needed breath of fresh air to allow it to spread. University FD was quick to act and I think Command made the right calls to make sure everyone was kept safe. My hats are off to all those that responded and to all those that "Serve & Protect us everyday!

Sourdough Sam's Fire


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Comment by Brad Hoff on March 18, 2009 at 11:19pm
I think the majority of the public supports us too but like we said before the person that made the bad comment got the snowball rolling and it took some time to stop it but by then the damage had already been done.

It's a new day and we get a fresh start to prove ourselves whenever duty calls.
Comment by Ben Fleagle on March 18, 2009 at 11:07pm
I think by and large the community does support us, its the occassional yahoo that sparks off at the right moment. People do care about us and they do support us, it was just a bad day and everyones favorite pancakes burned up.
Comment by Brad Hoff on March 18, 2009 at 11:03pm
We will continue to do what we do for the betterment of the the Brotherhood and the public. While the public will continue to do what they do, support us or belittle us.

Brothers, you know all to well we have some huge boots to fill and what never got those before us down will not falter us!
Comment by Brad Hoff on March 18, 2009 at 10:18pm
And they probably never will nor will ever make an effort to try to understand either brother.


Comment by Ben Fleagle on March 18, 2009 at 9:52pm
Will do Brent, and they do intend to rebuild. We even helped them dig the bucket of sourdough starter out of the frozen debris the next morning. 30 year old recipe. Hey Brad, people just don't understand what we do. They believe movies and kids books and newspapers. We actually had one guy barking at us the next morning in the parking lot, growling about why we pay firemen anyway. F*&%@!. What would he say if we reminded him of that when his place burns? People don't think, ...until its too late.
Comment by Brad Hoff on March 18, 2009 at 5:27pm
Brother're very welcome. We need to stand by each other and let our citizens know that we truly care about our citizens and this community. I know the paper had some good statements about firefighters in the comments but it seemed the ugly comments stood out the most. I'm not sure why people view us like that? I guess they see us as a piece of government that wastes tax payers dollars...WTF?. We all know the truth and that we are under staffed and usually under equipped not to mention the pay we get but most of us aren't in it for that.
Comment by Ben Fleagle on March 18, 2009 at 5:00pm

Hey Brent, this is what I saw as I was getting to the station for call back. I was still on scene four hours later.
Picture taken by J. Buist.
Comment by Ben Fleagle on March 18, 2009 at 4:56pm
Hey Brad,

Thanks for the supportive eval. The restaurant carried a lot of sentimental value to the local residents, many of whom do not understand the decisions we have to make. I had a "mild come-apart" when I read the paper's account of what happended because it completely ignored the fact that inspite of everyone being out of the restuarant, 9 of our firefighters led by our most experienced officer made a valiant, unsuccessful attempt to stop that fire at great risk to thier own lives. That didn't seem to cross many folks minds, least not the ones that spoke up. People don't seem to realize that we are as heartbroken as the rest of the community.

Thanks again for the support Brad.

Comment by Brad Hoff on March 17, 2009 at 1:16am
Sourdough Sams shall rise from the ashes!!!

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