How do you Stretch and Advance Your Attack Lines?

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Permalink Reply by Mike Walker on April 4, 2008 at 7:57pm

In OKC we've started using a fold called the Metro Fold. I got the concept from the other guys I teach with. They saw it on a web site from some guys out in California. Works like a champ. Come to find out Wichita KS. has been using it for quite some time.

It allows you to have up to 100 ft of hose, (2 1/2") charged and ready to go in a pretty small space. If anyone is interested, I've got some crude pictures from our use of it. In the next couple of weeks I should have some really good ones to share.

Permalink Reply by Nick Weiland on May 1, 2008 at 6:35pm

Yes very interested bro

Permalink Reply by Mike Walker on May 1, 2008 at 9:12pm

I found a Youtube video that shows these loads very well. Go to YouTube and do a search on "The Bundles". There are about 3 different videos on how they use this type of load.

Permalink Reply by Russ Chapman on May 22, 2008 at 2:08pm

Mike
We use "Roll Ups" which really are folds. The key to this is to make sure that the Roll Ups are layed out the same, male female, male female on the apparatus floor concentrically when you make them up, so they will mate up when you go to connect them. It works great with all sizes of hose.

Permalink Reply by Mike Walker on May 23, 2008 at 12:35am

Do you have any pictures of your "Roll Ups?"

Permalink Reply by Russ Chapman on May 23, 2008 at 9:44am

Mike
I will take some and get back to you.

Permalink Reply by Mike Walker on May 23, 2008 at 5:33pm

That would be great, thanks.

Permalink Reply by Art Zern on May 26, 2008 at 10:11pm

Mike,

Are you interested in 2 1/2 hose packs, skid loads, high-rise packs or??????

Permalink Reply by Mike Walker on May 27, 2008 at 9:10am

2 1/2 inche high-rise packs mainly but any hose load that is different then what is in the books is okay too.

Permalink Reply by Ryan J. McGovern on May 27, 2008 at 10:51am

Mike,
In Boston, we're still using the traditional twin donut rolls. Each first in Engine Co is equiped with 200' of 2 1/2" hose that brought into the building for possible use. One alternative that some companies have been testing, is the use of the self-locking donut roll, to eliminate the need for a separate hose strap. For us, it's worked fairly well, because once untied, you have both ends of the hose right in front of you for easy deployment. The biggest hang-up I can think of off the top of my head is that fact that they do get heavy, and the hands do get tired after lugging these things. I am going to check out that Metro Fold, it sounds like a pretty good concept.

Permalink Reply by Ray on June 8, 2008 at 11:33am

We use the FDNY standpipe fold 2 1/2 hose. This system works extremely well. No matter what fold you use you must know how to get the stretch done in the stairway in case you must charge the line before entering the fire floor.

Permalink Reply by Ricky Teter on June 8, 2008 at 3:53pm

Lt. McCormack can you describe the FDNY standpipe fold or give a link where we can see it?

Being from Denver, we obviously use the Denver fold, for those who do not know we have our hose packs set up in 50' horseshoe packs that are secured with 3 seperate straps. The packs work great while moving up & down stairs. The horseshoe can sit over your cylinder and your shoulder or just ride right on your cylinder. This leaves your hands free for carrying tools or the hi-rise bag and for using the hand railing. The way the pack rides on your cylinder also reduces your profile so working in the stairs is easier and people can pass on the stairs.

We have two set ups, one is 1 3/4" packs with a smooth bore with a 15/16" tip that we carry on box alarms and investigations and 2 1/2" with a smooth bore with break away stack tips that we use for fires in uncompartmentalized areas.

We will flake one section of line down the hall of the floor that we make our standpipe connection on and then flake hose out the remaining sections on the stairs up above the fire floor. This lets gravity help advance the charged line onto the fire floor. It works pretty good for us.

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