Holding the Attack Line

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Permalink Reply by Shawn Tibbitts on August 12, 2009 at 10:23pm

I have always done and have been taught one hand on the pistol grip other hand on the bail. It has always worked well for me and honestly never thought of doing it another way. In all honesty the only hand line nozzles we have for offensive FF are tack force tips with pistol grips.
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Permalink Reply by Brandon Erbe on August 13, 2009 at 12:13pm

My belief is that you should forget that that pistol grip is even there. The nozzel should be held at an arms distance away from you so you can get good mobility out of it. If you think about it, most of the time you are spraying water you should be on your knees or lower also if you need to roll to your back you have that extra line to use, if you are holding the grip you don't have enough line to work with. Around here we take the pistol grips off if we can. It teaches poor behavior to the new guys. Again just put the pipe out far enough that you can still reach the bail when you need to shut down. You will find it requres much less effort to spray that water around then if you are holding direclty onto the nozzel. Just basic firefighting that has been handed down, give it a try.

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Permalink Reply by Adam Gannaway on August 13, 2009 at 1:43pm

I agree you should forget about the pistol grip. The hose should be out in front a little ways but still able to reach the bail. If you get new members on or even with the vets. that are on you should train with out the grip. I was trained with out the grip and I'm glad about it to, because then I don't rely on that grip being there.

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Permalink Reply by Barry Aptt on August 13, 2009 at 7:53pm

no pistol grips. They promote bad habits

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Permalink Reply by Shawn Tibbitts on August 15, 2009 at 11:37pm

Point taken... Will try next time and see how it works for me. I was always trained that way, but what your saying makes sense thanks

Brandon Erbe said:

My belief is that you should forget that that pistol grip is even there. The nozzel should be held at an arms distance away from you so you can get good mobility out of it. If you think about it, most of the time you are spraying water you should be on your knees or lower also if you need to roll to your back you have that extra line to use, if you are holding the grip you don't have enough line to work with. Around here we take the pistol grips off if we can. It teaches poor behavior to the new guys. Again just put the pipe out far enough that you can still reach the bail when you need to shut down. You will find it requres much less effort to spray that water around then if you are holding direclty onto the nozzel. Just basic firefighting that has been handed down, give it a try.

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Permalink Reply by Brotherhood Instructors, LLC on August 16, 2009 at 7:25am

Here is a quick video we did to show a little about our engine operations class. Instead of typing it, I will post the link so you can take a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kxLujBq_nM

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Permalink Reply by Larry Glover on August 16, 2009 at 8:00am

My volly company just purchased new Protek pistol grip nozzles (1 3/4", 2 1/2"). Most of us don't care for them for the same reasons mentioned above. I feel as if I have more control of the nozzle if I don't hold the grip and keep it out in front, not on my hip.

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Permalink Reply by Adam Gannaway on August 16, 2009 at 8:45am

Hey that was a great video. Very well put together. Hope others will see that and loose them pistol grips. Get job on the video.

Brotherhood Instructors, LLC said:

Here is a quick video we did to show a little about our engine operations class. Instead of typing it, I will post the link so you can take a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kxLujBq_nM

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Permalink Reply by Brotherhood Instructors, LLC on August 16, 2009 at 9:17am

Thanks Adam. We are doing an Engine & Ladder class on Friday in Illinois, and hope to get a few more videos up in the near future.

Adam Gannaway said:

Hey that was a great video. Very well put together. Hope others will see that and loose them pistol grips. Get job on the video.

Brotherhood Instructors, LLC said:

Here is a quick video we did to show a little about our engine operations class. Instead of typing it, I will post the link so you can take a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kxLujBq_nM

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Permalink Reply by Adam Gannaway on August 16, 2009 at 7:47pm

Good deal. I'll be looking for them. Thanks and keep up the good work brother.

Brotherhood Instructors, LLC said:

Thanks Adam. We are doing an Engine & Ladder class on Friday in Illinois, and hope to get a few more videos up in the near future.

Adam Gannaway said:

Hey that was a great video. Very well put together. Hope others will see that and loose them pistol grips. Get job on the video.

Brotherhood Instructors, LLC said:

Here is a quick video we did to show a little about our engine operations class. Instead of typing it, I will post the link so you can take a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kxLujBq_nM

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Permalink Reply by Shareef Abdu Nur on August 18, 2009 at 2:30pm

Brandon Erbe hit the nail right on the head. Great job and great insight!

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Permalink Reply by Brandon Erbe on August 18, 2009 at 4:10pm

Thanks Brother, just trying to pass it on.

Shareef Abdu Nur said:

Brandon Erbe hit the nail right on the head. Great job and great insight!

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