It's That Simple

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Permalink Reply by Larry Lasich on May 18, 2011 at 1:41pm

Word to the Street, Jason.

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Permalink Reply by Jeff Schwering on May 18, 2011 at 3:20pm

Seldom do I disagree Jason, with you anyway. In this case I agree with most of what is here, however, you have forgotten one little thing that I live with every tour. Nothing we do is just that Simple! While many of us go out of our way to be simple stupid, it seems we have someone of the same rank or higher turning simple to difficult. The best we can do is KTF and push forward, one day it will be simple, I hope. IMHO!

 

Stay Safe Brother! To much time on my hands bro!

Jeff

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Permalink Reply by Jason Hoevelmann on May 18, 2011 at 3:23pm

Your right Jeff, you can only control what you can control. There are always some that will make that much more difficult, and like you said, Keep the Faith and push onward.

 

See ya Brother,

Jason

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Permalink Reply by Larry Lasich on May 18, 2011 at 10:00pm

To Paraphrase Von Clausewitz; "Everything in Fire Fighting is simple, but the simplest things are very difficult."

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Permalink Reply by Joe Hall on May 18, 2011 at 10:26pm

Well said.  We must come to work ready, stay physically fit and eat well.  We must drill on every shift day and check our equipment.  We must critique incidents to know what worked and what did not.  We must admit and own our deficiencies and correct them through training.  During emergencies our prepardness through checking our equipment, training, strong I.C. & sector officers, organized companies, good communications on a designated fireground channel, great 360 size ups, situational awareness, conditions and events awareness, and orderly well executed stratagies & tactics we have the best chance of survival and a succesful incident outcome.  Stay safe everyone.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          

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Permalink Reply by Michael Bricault (ret) on May 18, 2011 at 10:41pm

-Tome Brennen was fond of teaching us that firefighting is always about the basics. Learn and apply the basics properly and everything else will fall into place.

-The "basics" also apply to management... and it really is that simple. Treat your people well, train them, empower them; embolden them. Look out for them and be their biggest cheerleader and be genuinely concerned for their lives; professional and private. Defend them vigorously and chastise in private. Remember to be their advocate... always.

-I recall a newly promoted chief, who was showing forgetfulness about the rank and file and appearing to sell out to city hall pressure, being told "I understand that you have a responsibility to your employer but you have a sacred obligation to the men!"

-Good leadership and management starts at the company level with the officer and sometimes the "unofficial leaders. A good leader recognizes these assets and attributes and takes advantage of them. It really is that simple. A good officer learns the assets and limitations of his crew and utilizes that to the company's advantage to effect a successful outcome for the end user of our services, but he never forgets his obligation to his people, which are his greatest assets. Without the company or men to lead the leader is nothing. Care for your people and they'll take care of you.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Bricault (ret) on May 18, 2011 at 10:43pm

-A good firefighter or officer knows that respect cannot be demand, ordered or even given... it must be earned.

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Permalink Reply by Brian Jones on May 19, 2011 at 7:57am

"When the backstep pulls the line off of the rig inadequately and the officer jumps his s***, we have a problem.  Is it not the job of the company officer to make sure his crew is ready?  Is it not the officers job to ensure that the guys on his truck are proficient at the tasks as simple as pulling a line?  Sure the backstepper has a responsibility, but that company officer has a problem with the wrong guy.  If that company officer drilled regularly, any deficiencies would have been identified and remediated before they became a problem. It's called knowing your crew."

 

I agree with this to a degree, but like the saying goes  "You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink"  I have trained people before at drills, and asked them questions, and when we were done they said they were comfortable and demonstrated the skills adequately enough, but than the call comes around and the newly acquired skills are tested, and the member screws something up.  Is this the end of the world?  No, just a member who doesnt use the skill often enough to be proficient at it, and chances are, after screwing up in front of the other crew and you talk to them afterwards about what happened wrong and how they can make it better next time, that mistake will never happen again.  That is what I believe dictates a good officer.  To me an officer that "Jumps anyones s***" in front of other crew or even in front of civilians and bystanders is just a glory hound.  There is no need to rip into anyone when mistakes are made, the lesson is never learned that way.  The only thing that comes of that is a secret hatred for the officer and discontent with the job.  That firefighter will be increasingly uncomfortable around the officer and his/her crew after that and will not try 100% any more.

 

Instead, the officer should take them aside and talk about what went wrong and if the member understands why, and if there can be any change made to make it better.  This fosters respect for the officer and in the long run makes a better crew.  The crew trusts the officer and work hard for them, and the respect is earned.  Im not in any way saying that the officer needs to "Baby" the crew, but be firm without an audience.  If it involves a threat to life...Thats something that requires a firm and swift reprimand, but than finish it at the station with only the crew to witness it.

 

The other officer tries to force the respect, and it just serves to make things worse.  I have served for both types of officer and know the feeling of being berrated in front of others and its effects...not to respected.

 

I try to be the good officer and hope my crew will eventually look up to me, and I hope to "earn" their respect some day as well.

Good Topic brother, Stay Safe.

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