"Outside The Box" Engine Company Operations

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Engine Company work is often viewed as easy or not as fulfilling as "Truck Company work". This is absolutely not the case and some very "high speed" Engine Companies go to work everyday in very tough and arduous environments. They are only successful by relying on their relentless training, personal experiences and hunger to progress in the engine world.

This group is geared toward Engine Company tactics that use "outside the box" thinking to accomplish. Its purpose is to exchange information that will help others that view the discussions, posts and pictures. 

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  • David Jurado

    Outstanding. Thank you

    Aug 22, 2013

  • Skip Coleman

    Good topic Tony.  It would be interesting to ask members "What their Box" looks like. DO they never use PPA?  Do they strictly use PPA?  Do they strictly use Transitional Fire Attack? I would be interested in seeing what the size of the "go-to" initial attack line is in the US today.  

    Aug 22, 2013

  • Jason Hoevelmann

    Thanks for starting this and I look forward to some great discussion!

    Aug 22, 2013

  • Michael M. Dugan

    Thanks for the invite looking forward to some interesting discussions and exchange of information.

    Aug 22, 2013

  • Eric Schlett

    Thanks for the invite.  Looking forward to being part of this.

    Aug 22, 2013

  • David Polikoff

    Tony I will join, but you and I both know the tower is where it's at!  LOL. BTW good forum 

    Aug 22, 2013

  • Patrick Brown

    I would like to meet those who feel engine work is easy and unfulfilling....I'll bet they are truck guys or want to be truck guys. Everyone knows the engine company is the only company that actually puts out the fire. As we say, truck guys are only firemen helpers...they open it up so we can go to work.  

    Aug 22, 2013

  • Nick Morgan

    Thanks for the invite!!  Having been assigned to engines, quints, and currently an aerial platform quint, this should provide some great discussion.

    Aug 22, 2013

  • Kevin Story

    You know when we go to fires sometimes Truckies get a grab, the Engine always gets fire.

    Aug 22, 2013

  • Eric Michael Ziegelhofer

    Thanks for the invite looking forward to learning and possibly helping others.

    Aug 22, 2013

  • Michael Allora

    I've always been an engine guy at heart. I looked forward to the challenge of the spotting of the apparatus, the stretch of the hoseline, and the fight with the fire. Nothing against truck companies, but the engine is where I had an opportunity to understand the orchestration of the first alarm assignments and the coordination of companies operating at an incident. First due, second due, third due, it all came with a different set of responsibilities.

    I'll be looking forward to the commentary. Thanks for the invitation Bobby.  

    Aug 25, 2013

  • Eric Michael Ziegelhofer

    Michael,

    I too have been the engine guy at heart although I do like rescue company work. I had the fortunate training by a past chief who was also a past chief of a ladder company who always instilled that the truck company should have real estate in front or back of the building. While I agree that the engine company is where it's at and of course we do get to see a ton of fire, we've been fortunate including myself in making a grab. While the grabs are by textbook the truck or rescue companies jobs we all take part in those instances. As far as die hard truckies I give them their credit I mean come on when we the engine crews are taking a beating on the inside there's nothing more beautiful than hearing a saw running on the roof or windows being broken properly. As the past chief stated and instilled in me we can add a length or two or thirty to hose but you can't stretch a ladder. Now I do know your post isn't bashing the ladder company guys and its to promote good cohesive engine and ladder company operations we as the engine guys or girls need to give credit to everyone on the team. Again not saying or thinking you're bashing them one bit just adding my two cents. Yes I do look forward to making everyone better especially us on the engines!

    Aug 25, 2013

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    Jan 14, 2014

  • Jerry McGhee

    Very few department in my county (Kanawha, Co - WVa) have ladder companies. Charleston FD and a few volunteer department have ladders, but most are made up of volunteer departments that handle anything that comes in. I enjoy the life of the Engine Company but also like Rescue. Our area usually gets more rescue type calls than anything.

    May 13, 2014

  • Dr.mostafa elnhrawy
    An innovative Egyptian expert Dr. Mostafa El Nahrawy
    Nominated for the International Fire Excellence Award and the 2017 Emergency Awards
    Congratulations to Egypt and the United Arab Emirates to win the award
    Fire Excellence and Emergency Awards 2017
    Dr. Mostafa El-Nahrawy wins the best international practices in civil protection and emergency management
    In order to pass internationally and internationally for his efforts in the field of major fire fighting and contingency plans, which enabled him to nominate the best international practices for fire fighting and emergency emergency plans for 2017
    The award will be received in London
    Dr. Mostafa El - Nahrawy
    Member of the Council of Egyptian Scientists
    Member of the Arab Union for Sustainable Development and the Environment
    Member of Syndicate of Inventors
    Member of the Egyptian Foundation for Development and Training
    Lecturer at the State Center for Human Development and Project Management
    Lecturer at the Arab Academy for Security Sciences

     

    Nov 3, 2017

  • James J. Shea

    does anyone use this site?   last entry was nov 2017

    Sep 5, 2018

  • Fire Engineering

    James, many of these subgroups do not get as much use as they once did. If you have a specific question or comment, however, please post away.

    Sep 5, 2018