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A couple of thoughts on this incident and the comments.
First, rather than "blue canary," the latest term is "copological indicator."
Second, it's important that fire departments not get in the business of handling and managing other people's waste. Anything beyond the required mitigation of the incident can lead to some significant legal issues and fines.
Once a material has been identified as a waste, it has to be characterized. If it's determined to be hazardous waste (as defined by the feds) either because of toxicity, reactivity, flammability or corrosivity or because it's a listed waste, there is a whole raft of regulations that kick into place.
Suffice it to say that fire departments don't want to be in the business of packaging, transporting, or especially improperly disposing of haz waste (such as in the dumpster behind the station). Putting a label on drums/barrels that advises the contents are awaiting disposal pending analysis may be as far as the responding agencies are able to go without running into potentially significant liability.
Good you sure know the reg! I think oil follows under a different Reg. i would quote it but I left it at the firehouse.. Sorry! With waste it starts to fall under generators , if I remember correctly. There is some things different in the oil reg because it can be regenerated (cleaned) and reused. I sure wish I had that book! Great points and your right on with the regs. This picture to me seems to be not from a DOT Approved cargo truck but from someone hauling it in the back of a truck, like a small repair business or something. Great stuff! I would love to know more details .
Todd
Lane Sekavec said:A couple of thoughts on this incident and the comments.
First, rather than "blue canary," the latest term is "copological indicator."
Second, it's important that fire departments not get in the business of handling and managing other people's waste. Anything beyond the required mitigation of the incident can lead to some significant legal issues and fines.
Once a material has been identified as a waste, it has to be characterized. If it's determined to be hazardous waste (as defined by the feds) either because of toxicity, reactivity, flammability or corrosivity or because it's a listed waste, there is a whole raft of regulations that kick into place.
Suffice it to say that fire departments don't want to be in the business of packaging, transporting, or especially improperly disposing of haz waste (such as in the dumpster behind the station). Putting a label on drums/barrels that advises the contents are awaiting disposal pending analysis may be as far as the responding agencies are able to go without running into potentially significant liability.
Good you sure know the reg! I think oil follows under a different Reg. i would quote it but I left it at the firehouse.. Sorry! With waste it starts to fall under generators , if I remember correctly. There is some things different in the oil reg because it can be regenerated (cleaned) and reused. I sure wish I had that book! Great points and your right on with the regs. This picture to me seems to be not from a DOT Approved cargo truck but from someone hauling it in the back of a truck, like a small repair business or something. Great stuff! I would love to know more details .
Todd
Lane Sekavec said:A couple of thoughts on this incident and the comments.
First, rather than "blue canary," the latest term is "copological indicator."
Second, it's important that fire departments not get in the business of handling and managing other people's waste. Anything beyond the required mitigation of the incident can lead to some significant legal issues and fines.
Once a material has been identified as a waste, it has to be characterized. If it's determined to be hazardous waste (as defined by the feds) either because of toxicity, reactivity, flammability or corrosivity or because it's a listed waste, there is a whole raft of regulations that kick into place.
Suffice it to say that fire departments don't want to be in the business of packaging, transporting, or especially improperly disposing of haz waste (such as in the dumpster behind the station). Putting a label on drums/barrels that advises the contents are awaiting disposal pending analysis may be as far as the responding agencies are able to go without running into potentially significant liability.
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