Roll Technique

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Permalink Reply by Todd McKee on April 23, 2008 at 8:18am

Right here is what this sight is all about, this is an excellent forum for learning. Great Pictures and questions~! What about SOP's one gentleman said he has it in his SOP's . Share those with the group please

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Permalink Reply by Russ Chapman on April 23, 2008 at 9:05am

Guys
The loop should be layed down by the Doorman. One way to do this is to use a off apartment, or another room to find a place for the hose. Can there be too much? Yes, but that is where training all the FFs on how to estimate stretches, something we don't do in these days of pre-connects. Roll the hoseline up the stairs or down the hallway, then find a home on the floor for it. There should not be a ton of hose. The Backup FF should not be saying "More line"! but sayint " 5 feet,,,10 feet" etc. This way it gives the Door FF an idea. As far as SOPs, there is no rock solid SOP, like I said before, pro active Engine Companies train daily with water. This is something my company does when ever we need hose on an upper floor. The alternative is a bunch of kinks.
Be safe

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Permalink Reply by Paul Lomske on April 23, 2008 at 11:16pm

"OBSERVATIONS ON THE ENGINE COMPANY" in my previous reply is an Andrew Fredericks article.

Some other FE articles that mention bows, kinks and doorman:

STRETCHING AND OPERATING THE FIRST LINE
BY TIM KLETT

STRETCHING AND ADVANCING HANDLINES, PART 2
BY ANDREW A. FREDERICKS

How Kinks Affect Your Fire Attack System
Doug Leihbacher
Jerry Knapp
Tim Pillsworth
Christopher Flatley

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Permalink Reply by Todd McKee on April 23, 2008 at 11:31pm

Thanks Paul! This is a great forum for all! Remember be safe and train as training will save lives

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Permalink Reply by Scott Richardson on April 23, 2008 at 11:40pm

Using this roll technique works very well in open areas and stairwells. It also works well to get 6-10' of hose around a corner. One brother mentioned the nozzle being closed; great point.

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Permalink Reply by Todd McKee on April 23, 2008 at 11:42pm

Scott Great! Reply Bro ! This seems to be one of the best ways to advance hose. Feel free to tak e a look at some of the hazmat groups. Thanks

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Permalink Reply by Greg Sharp on April 29, 2008 at 3:24pm

For residential we use a flat load from the engine. We take the nozzle to the door that we are making entry. We then zig-zag back and forth on the ground from the entry point out about 25ft. back and forth. This way you are only pulling from the front and not from the engine to the door. It will generally pull up a set of stairs and around corners. The loop does work for going up at set of stairs and then zig-zag on the landing or hallway.

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