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For those of you that are interested in discussing training burns. Pro's and Con's, Training safely and effectively with live fire. Led by FIRE, LLC's Tony Piontek, who has over ten years experience in 170+ structure burns.
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Gas Fired Props vs. Class A Burn Building

by Ricky Teter

Apr 21, 2008

Hey Brothers, I'm looking for input on gas fired props inside a fixed burn building. We currently burn class A's (pallets & straw) in our burn building and are considering converting to gas fire props, but we have some concerns that the gas fired props do not produce the same heat & smoke conditions of the class A's. Any thoughts on these props would be appreciated, Thanks!
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    I agree with Drew, if you can have the best of both worlds go for both the Class A and gas fired props. If I were forced to choose I would stay with the Class A trainers. We have both and utilize the Class A props more supplemented by smudge pot and smoke machines to achieve varied conditions. With the gas fire props we have had numerous maintance issues, theatrical smoke burns off quickly and communication issues trying to coach or teach over the roar of the gas.

    Apr 24, 2008

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    Class A is the way to go. Having used both I feel that firefighters should be exposed to as close to real life conditions as safely possible.

    Apr 27, 2008

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    I agree with Drew, you get the best of both worlds. Propane fired adds heat with no smoke, and you can modify/create props that will burn class A AND are gas fired...NG or Propane...just need to adjust the orifice size. It depends what you are trying to accomplish with the training, and the level of the students. ALWAYS match the 2 together for successful training evolutions.

    May 1, 2008