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Jim
I agree that in most cases you should be able to see exterior indicators that there is a fire. In my first due area. I have homes that are 10,000 plus sq. feet. They are three and four story single family homes. We run into the problem that these are second homes. They are not necessarily the primary home.
When a fire alarm occurs in one of these homes there maybe no one available as a key holder. I believe that it is reasonable and prudent to use the TIC to check the exterior walls of the home to see if I see any heat signatures that warrants making a forced entry into a the home. I believe that a homeowner could make a case for negligence or mal-practice if you fail to use a TIC in this manner.
We had one of these home years ago before TICs’ were invented. The Captain could hear the alarm going off in the home. The alarm company reported fire and burglar alarms activated. The homeowners lived out of state and no key holder was available. The Captain waited on scene checking the exterior for over thirty minutes. There were no visible signs of a fire from the exterior of the home. The curtains and storm shutter were closed preventing interior examination through the windows. He left without making entry into the home. Two hours later the fire was through the roof. We burned this house to the ground.
My tactic is based on this fire. If TICs’ had been invented at that time we my have been able to see a heat signature through the walls that would have lead us to make forced entry and saved this home. We now have the technology (TIC’s) and should use this tactic. It is not a perfected tactic but I believe it is reasonable and prudent to use it.
LT Jim Caton CFEI, CFII
Thanks for joining CSF (Common Sense Firefighting ) . It's a group on decision making on the fire ground. Jump into any discussion at any time. We have a couple of good ones going right now. What knid of training do you provide company officer development? I notice you have a PPV mis-use training on your page. Take a look at the primary ventlation dicussion on CSFyou might like it. We got into PPV fairly deep.
Jim Mason
Chgo FD
Spencer is the one I told you that I like to get involved with what I'm planning up here... Also trying to talk him into FDIC... I think he would really fit in with the misfitts........... like you guys.... Love ya Bro
Jenn
Spencer
P.s> do you (sure you do) know Jake Rhodes? now with Jenks fd> i went to the fsio conference last week and found that out. Sure is a good guy, glad to have him close. later brother
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