Tie off the Halyard! and five minutes later....

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Permalink Reply by Scott Kleinschmidt on August 15, 2009 at 6:54pm

NOPE!!!!

Permalink Reply by Scott Kleinschmidt on August 16, 2009 at 11:28am

I was also taught stand under the ladder to heal it, 75 degree climbing angle, 4 man raise ( when most our rigs have 3 FF's ) and so on.

Permalink Reply by Brian Arnold on August 16, 2009 at 1:09pm

Doesn't usually happen. Occasionally some white helmet walking around looking for something to do may trip over it and tie it off.....hehehe

Permalink Reply by Ben Fleagle on August 16, 2009 at 2:43pm

Someone might be trying to tie it, but I'll be running up it already. You've voiced another one of those things that we learn about doing the job, but often don't explain to the young ones until we are faced with the situation and they're standing there screwing around with a clove hitch. Also I think many fire departments still fail to throw ladders enough to think outside the FF 1 box. Ever thrown an extension ladder with "fly-in", ....OOOOH, now you're gonna die! It doesn't have that part in the book!

Permalink Reply by Jeff Schwering on August 18, 2009 at 10:44am

I like to tie a pretty bow, if I had the time. 3 person companies and members who couldn't tie a clove hitch if their life depended on it. Seldom gets done, unless an automatic aid company ties it while my crew is on the roof opening up.

Permalink Reply by Todd Trudeau on August 27, 2009 at 12:25pm

Lt. Ciampo from FDNY posted an option in training minutes (season 3) on tying off the lanyard to the bottom rung and leaving it that way for storage and use. Basically you wouldn't have to untie someone else's idea of a clove hitch, which can save a few seconds (or minutes)

Todd

Permalink Reply by Ben Fleagle on August 27, 2009 at 2:18pm

Todd:

Tying off on the bottom rung and weaving the halyard tail back in was the way I learned. Made sense, you didn't have to spend a lot of time messing around with it. If you had time to tie it, you could use the Bangor Knot, fast simple. BUT IT ISN'T IN IFTSA, .....so folks where I'm at now frowned on that one.

Todd Trudeau said:

Lt. Ciampo from FDNY posted an option in training minutes (season 3) on tying off the lanyard to the bottom rung and leaving it that way for storage and use. Basically you wouldn't have to untie someone else's idea of a clove hitch, which can save a few seconds (or minutes)

Todd