Been reading your department's "Nozzle Project", very, very good stuff. What has occurred since that would affect your results? Anything? We're developing plans to give 2 1/2" lines its proper place on our engines again, and I'm looking for the right argument to sway opinions about smooth bores as well. (By the way, the push for this started at the Seattle Convention class in '08)
Rob, It looks like the burns that we were looking for are not going to come thru. Do you have any plans on May 2nd and 25th? I will be back down in Ballard if you have time to stop by. I need to get and give some thoughts and updates on CAFS for us.
Hey Lt! Yup Im at 62's on Ashift!!! haha shark pit as a proby Im loving it! A few fires so far not much to speak of. But come the first of the year 62's has 5/8 fools and the 3 are definately fools. It will be something else!
Rob, Thanks for taking the time while you are away. Tell your wife thanks for letting me borrow your time. If she is like my wife, she is used to me sneaking a little bit of the addiction known as firefighting even when we are on vacation. Buy her a drink and hug her. Let her know it is raining, near flood stage here in NW.
The information that you delivered is perfect and timely. We mirror your dept. in so many ways. We just had an Officers meeting last week and the topic of CAFS on interior attacks was an Action Item. We were running 95 gpm on CAFS 1 3/4. We are now bumping up GPM, but in the meantime, no air for initial interior attacks. Transitional CAFS, then no air move in. IF it is well ventilated CAFS for initial ops.
I will take you up on the offer for meeting and getting to know the others listed. When do you get back? I am committed as we teach a 3 day class at North Bend next week. But will have some time after that until December.
I would love to get the information lines flowing. Our training Div. has one DC and one LT. We have a training Cadre. Meaning we have a specialist for various disciplines: Ventilation, Forcible Entry, Vehicle Extrication, RIT, Tech. Rescue, etc. This person is responsible for: writing a budget for the next year, attending training and networking to ensure we are up to speed on what is new and what is regional, scheduling and delivering the training to the three (only 3 not 4) platoons. So our "Pseudo Training Division" is quite large with up to 9 people. All but 2 are Operations Employees filling their disciplines.
Two of our guys are Pump Operator Instructors/ CAFS Instructors (meaning the mechanics of how an Operator is to deliver water and/or CAFS). We expect our pump operators to set the pressures but our Operations Chief to set the GPM. That being said, we are strugging with the GPM part currently and I suggested bumping our GPM on CAFS to at least 120gpm 1 3/4. Our current limitation on 3 of our rigs is a 150cfm compressor. One of our rigs has 200cfm, so larger gpm flows are not an issue.
The other issue we face is hot hydrants. In my area we have hydrants that can be in excess of 100 psi. SO this intake pressure dumps are RPM low and our compressors dump. Currently we gate down intake.
Look forward to seeing you and talking with you guys. I am going to go put some rain gear on and go to the store.
Rob, Chad Berg has pointed me your direction for some information that I am trying to track down. Read the questions below and let me know if you can point me in the right direction. Thanks so much, Scott***
I have some specific questions regarding the use of CAFS on interior fire attack:
1)Do you use CAFS lines for supported interior attacks? Meaning that station can arrive and begin an interior attack without the need to wait for additional units to arrive on scene. I have heard a lot of reports of the use at stations that will perform a transitional (defensive to offensive) knock down from the outside. We are facing implementation of CAFS Engines into our fleet.
2)What are your flows for: 1 3/4, 2 1/2 interior lines?
3)Do you use CAFS for interior attacks in structures that do not have carpet or other absorbant materials for flooring? Do you have any concerns in this scenario with appying CAFS on a surface that will not abosrb and could potentially lead to a slippery surface to walk on.
4)Regarding use of CAFS on Interior attacks: Are there any "go, no go" indicators that fall into your decision making prior to use?
We are looking for tactical information on the actual use of CAFS for interior attacks and so far we are finding that depts end up leaving it at Officers Choice, that equals to "not used for supported interior operations due to low GPM.
Berg told me what you did at the Academy with my post. That's awesome, Brother. I cannot even begin to say how humbled I am that you guys were moved by what I wrote and that you shared with your new people. I does my heart good.
Rob - My sister-in-law lives Sequim and I recently went out there for a visit. I really like the slow pace and relaxing atmosphere of that area. I may have only seen a small part but what I saw and did was cool.
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