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High Rise Hose Stretch debate

It's funny you talk about the Cleveland Load beacause it is something we are looking at and trying out as a possible option for our high rise needs. The way we have brought the load together is 100'…

Replied Nov. 8, 2009

High Rise Hose Stretch debate

Thanks for some more insight and a little bit of support. I'm working on finding out his reasoning. I'm having to do it through the officer in charge of the training, because the officer that made th…

Replied Oct. 25, 2009

High Rise Hose Stretch debate

I have veiwed your training minutes, actually a few times, and totally agree with the way you teach it. I just have been trying to find more theories or thoughts on why people choose not to stretch u…

Replied Oct. 23, 2009

High Rise Hose Stretch debate

I totally agree with the "never" statement. So I have restated the questions. Do you train stretching the hose up the stairwell, uncharged, in a uncompromised stairwell past the fire floor? If you d…

Replied Oct. 22, 2009

 

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Shaun replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion 'High Rise Hose Stretch debate'
The issue of stretching a line above the fire floor or below is one of opinion. Depending on who you like to read, writers have differing opinions. Norman and Dunn like the floor below based on their experiences. The last IFSTA I read still stated t…
February 10
Russ Chapman replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion 'High Rise Hose Stretch debate'
Ray What happened with John King in the 80s. I heard he was caught on the mid landing. I don't see an issue if you have the manpower, when the hallway is charged to check the stream and flake the hoseline on the floor below, and start the attack at…
February 9
Eric Myers replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion '"Cleveland Load" high rise packs' in the group Start Water
We are currently experimenting with "The Corona Role" it is the same thing as the Cleveland Load just a different name. We deploy it with our high rise packs and have one pre-connected to our 2.5" alley lay. It seems to be a hit with the crews who a…
November 11, 2009
Danny Sheridan replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion 'High Rise Hose Stretch debate'
I beleive we are talking about apples and oranges in this case. That may be true about stretching above in some other types of buildings ie. private dwellings or wood frames, but in fireproof buildings that is not the case. We always preach that you…
November 10, 2009
Jeremy Williams added a discussion to the group Start Water
"Cleveland Load" high rise packs
Wondering if anyone out there is actually using the 'Cleveland load' as a highrise pack? If you are how are you packing it? Any success or problems? We are currently testing the Cleveland Load out as a highrise pack on a few of our companies and th…
November 8, 2009
Jeremy Williams replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion 'High Rise Hose Stretch debate'
It's funny you talk about the Cleveland Load beacause it is something we are looking at and trying out as a possible option for our high rise needs. The way we have brought the load together is 100' cleveland load style and 50' packed Denver style.…
November 8, 2009
scott schultz replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion 'High Rise Hose Stretch debate'
We train to anticipate tenable conditions for SCBA use. That is.... what would be considered untenable for the average civilian would be tenable for fire crews already on air. Why the difference? tenable should only mean one thing right? Not necessa…
November 7, 2009
Larry Lasich replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion 'High Rise Hose Stretch debate'
WORD! I don't want to be the crew leader that's telling the boss what the conditons are and hear "let me check my notes"!
October 26, 2009
Kevin Nowicki replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion 'High Rise Hose Stretch debate'
It is unfortunate that an officer in this day and age can only fight fire on what the book says. We promote people to company officer ranks for the purpose of making tough decisions based on situations, not pages in a book. If the book was the only…
October 26, 2009
Dave LeBlanc replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion 'High Rise Hose Stretch debate'
Been there, done that. Got the tshirt. Good luck bro.
October 25, 2009
Jeremy Williams replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion 'High Rise Hose Stretch debate'
Thanks for some more insight and a little bit of support. I'm working on finding out his reasoning. I'm having to do it through the officer in charge of the training, because the officer that made the comment was very defensive when I talked to him…
October 25, 2009
Ray McCormack replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion 'High Rise Hose Stretch debate'
I think you need to press him on why he is against it. Safety is achieved in many ways if the door remains closed during the procedue no harm will occur. If you charge the line from below and have to drag a charged 2 1/2 line up a flight of stairs b…
October 24, 2009
Jeremy Williams joined Scott Thompson's group
COMPANY DRILLS
DRILLS ONLY.....A resource for Company Officers to assist with the delivery of company level training. List the learning objectives and a step by step approach for conducting the drills safely.
October 23, 2009
Jeremy Williams joined Ray McCormack's group
Start Water
A place to discuss Engine Company Operations.
October 23, 2009
Jeremy Williams replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion 'High Rise Hose Stretch debate'
I have veiwed your training minutes, actually a few times, and totally agree with the way you teach it. I just have been trying to find more theories or thoughts on why people choose not to stretch up the stairwell in this situation and there has be…
October 23, 2009
Ray McCormack replied to Jeremy Williams's discussion 'High Rise Hose Stretch debate'
Check Training Minutes I cover this very topic. Good Luck Ray
October 22, 2009

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