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High rise hose lay operations
I am currently retired but have spent considerable time teaching high rise fire operations. (1981 to1992) This tactic for high rise opertions comes form the LACITYFD. and is used successfully in actual fires.
Myself and Bob Ramirez travelled across the U.S. presenting high rise seminars.
Regarding the hose lays in stairshafts. Using 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 attack lines we found that it is very effective to lay the lines up the stairway on the fire floor and then back down to the doorway. Do not load the line until the fire attack team is ready to enter the fire floor. When the line is loaded it will come back down as the line is extended. This will be an easier pull into the fire area rather then pulling the line up from the floor below. This operation is better then pulling all of the hose from the stairway as it comes out of the hose pack or bundle. Some firefighters call this the "loop" method.
Myself and Bob Ramirez travelled across the U.S. presenting high rise seminars.
Regarding the hose lays in stairshafts. Using 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 attack lines we found that it is very effective to lay the lines up the stairway on the fire floor and then back down to the doorway. Do not load the line until the fire attack team is ready to enter the fire floor. When the line is loaded it will come back down as the line is extended. This will be an easier pull into the fire area rather then pulling the line up from the floor below. This operation is better then pulling all of the hose from the stairway as it comes out of the hose pack or bundle. Some firefighters call this the "loop" method.
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Permalink Reply by Dave LeBlanc on -
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Hey Jack. CHeck this discussion out. This very issue is being debated by both sides.
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Permalink Reply by Shareef Abdu Nur on -
This is the method that we use at my departments and it has never failed us. With minumum manpower, we have to work faster and smarter. This hoselay lightens the load for the attack team and with proper training, it is a very fast hose lay with minimal hang ups.
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Permalink Reply by Ray McCormack on -
You guys might be able to use the Training Minute I did on this awhile back. I have used this technique at fires for years.
Enjoy retirement.
Ray
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