"Cleveland Load"

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Permalink Reply by Esteban Andrés Cabrera Rebolledo on September 23, 2009 at 4:16pm

What is "Cleveland Load"

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Permalink Reply by Chuck Zerman on September 23, 2009 at 4:48pm

Here is a link to the you-tube video of the load

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUGL5cdk57Q

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Permalink Reply by Michael J. Anderson on September 24, 2009 at 8:12am

Here in my department, we currently use a hose "bundle" system that utilizes two bundles: one 100' 1 3/4" and one 150' 1 3/4 which connect to a gated wye for the purpose of reaching any fire that is beyond the reach of our racklines.

All of our companies have trained with the cleveland load, and most seemed to like it. We currently use the same cleveland load concept for our wildland hoses in our wildland progressive hoselays. I believe that our guys would not mind going to the clevelend load.

Personally I think ours and the cleveland have both pros and cons. I think that the cleveland would work GREAT in scissor-style split landings on flights of stairs and in extremely limited spaces. Personally I think that it would not "shine" when deployed on narrow, long apartment landings sometimes seen in building construction. Just my two cents worth.

Let me know what you find out and if you change. I included our short brief powerpoint on our load.

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• Y-Z.PPT, 12.6 MB

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Permalink Reply by Gregory Banks on September 24, 2009 at 9:08am

Not sure if you have seen these yet. Good Luck.

://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kieu1TUpDfU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUEwozQWWKY

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Permalink Reply by Brandon Krause on September 25, 2009 at 12:15pm

We too use the Cleveland for our wildland packs (its a Travis Co. thing). We did try the Cleveland load for our "high rise" or apartment packs about a year ago. Worked well, just couldnt get everyone onboard to load it back after using it. Im guessing it was just a change thing but it was nice while it lasted! We are looking into another load that once we get more info and some pics I will share with everyone.

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Permalink Reply by Adam Wiles on October 17, 2009 at 11:08am

Our department dosen't use it. I think it's definately worth trying out to see if you guys like how it deploys compared to other hose loads you use. We have limited personel so anything that makes it easier for one or two people to flake out and move is a step in the right direction. I'm a fan of the "triple load". Let us know how it works out for you.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Walker on October 17, 2009 at 8:04pm

Some of our rigs are using a form of this load on their pre-connects. It has pro's and con's.

The pro's: Very fast set up. Easy to know who's on which line (no spagetti lines); Much easier line advancement.

The cons: if while the line is advancing, the fire attack company stops when one of the coils is only halfway "uncoiled" it can cause a wicked kink causing a remarkable loss in gpm.

Solution to the con: They keep a man at the coils to prevent coil kinking.

What they are actually doing is a 150 ft. flat or triple load with the last 50 ft. in the Cleveland or Metro or whatever you want to call it.

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Permalink Reply by Dan Rice on October 18, 2009 at 10:38pm

Our department has kind of played around with actually using this load out of our crosslays for initial attack lines. As of right now we haven’t made any advancement in putting them on the truck but from what I have experienced with it, it would be a great tool for high rise or any multistory situation. My best advice would be to check out some of the links that have been posted, learn how to do it properly, and give it a shot. Once you’ve tried it a few times it becomes easier and faster than most other loads.

Lovin the job
Dan Rice

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