Structure Fire Assignments

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Permalink Reply by Greg Wild on August 8, 2008 at 6:06am

Hi Erron,

Good to "see" you on here and Congrats on the B-Wood job! I know that you have the passion for the job. I know how tough it is for you guys up their, with the staffing issues. What concerns me the most, is the RIT when you guys are busy. Maybe that's what we are for??

I'll give Josh an application tomorrow am, (he's at B-2 now) and we wil get you hooked up with us soon.
Glad to have you onboard Brother!
Greg

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Permalink Reply by JOSEPH KOONCE on August 8, 2008 at 6:48pm

my dept is ridgewood fire dept nj. we serve a 6 square mile area, with a pop. of 30-35.000 our first alarm assignment is 2 eng, truck and rescue. both eng grab a water supply, truck takes front of the buldg, rescue depends on nature of call. tour commander has command. depending on manpower, either 2nd due eng or rescue is rit. i am a member of NJ FOOLS

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Permalink Reply by Greg Wild on August 8, 2008 at 7:50pm

Joseph,

Thanks for coming by. Anyone from NJ is a friend of mine. We were at the '07 convention last year and had a great time.
Greg

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Permalink Reply by Todd McKee on August 8, 2008 at 8:10pm

Greg- I have been a part of so many organizations in the fire service that did not have the same beliefs that I have had about the love of the fire service and i want to make sure that the local fools feel that way as well. Other than my family at home nothing means more to me than the fire service and I try to pass that on and share it with others and at times it doesn't go well. Some don't feel like i do about training and the guys, some feel that it is a good job for the hours not for what the fire service stands for. Todd

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Permalink Reply by Greg Wild on August 9, 2008 at 5:54am

Scott,

Sounds to me like you might be in upper 10%. (Search the foolsinternational site for more info)
Stay their. Good work!
Greg

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Permalink Reply by JOSEPH KOONCE on August 9, 2008 at 3:49pm

Glad you had a great time. maybe will run into you at future training sometime. i try to attend fdic, firehouse world in san diego. stay safe joe k

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Permalink Reply by Joseph Fiorica on August 9, 2008 at 4:20pm

I work for the Sacramento Metropolitan Fire District. We are the 7th largest fire department in California. We have 39 Engine Companies, 4 Truck Companies, 1 Heavy Rescue Company (doubles as a Truck Co. minus the aerial), 1 HazMat Company (doubles as a Truck Co. minus the aerial), 14 Medic units split up into 6 Battalions. Our Engine Companies are staffed with 3 personnel, the Trucks with 4, and the Medics with 2. We provide service to a population of approximately 600,000 in an area of 417 square miles.

Our alarm assignments for structure fires are the same regardless of whether it is a residential or commercial structure. We send 3 Engine Companies, 2 Truck Companies, 1 Medic unit, and 2 Battalion Chiefs. We do have an S.O.P. that provides for pre-determined assignments. 1st arriving Engine Co. assumes fire attack. 2nd arriving Engine Co. is assigned to secure a water supply and assume Command. 3rd arriving Engine Co. assumes RIC. If a Medic unit arrives prior to the second or third Engine Co. they assume "2 out" so that we are in compliance with the OSHA regulation. Our Truck Companies generally split into 2 2 person teams with the one team assuming ventilation and the other team going interior to assist. The first arriving Truck assumes ventilation group and the 2nd arriving Truck performs other funtions as needed (i.e. salvage).

I am not currently a member of a FOOLS chapter but am aware of the FOOLS.

Hope this helps.

Joe Fiorica

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Permalink Reply by Pete Skeris on August 9, 2008 at 4:36pm

Greetings from Charlotte NC, 39 Stations, and 700,000 waiting to be served.

As one of your other replies mentioned we seperate between " Normal" residential/commercial with 4 Engines, 1 Ladder, 1 Heavy Rescue, 2 BC; a High-risk assignments get 6E, 3L, 1Heavy, 3BC. Each of those would be for confirmed or suspected woring fires.

There are limited pre-determined assgnments on high-rise structure to cover the FDC and lobby control, but otherwise assigned by the IC. The same goes for RIC, it is assumed (UNIDOR) that the 4th due Engine is RIC, but it is left upto the IC.

Charlotte Metro FOOLS

Pete

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Permalink Reply by Greg Wild on August 10, 2008 at 9:03am

Hi Joe,

Sounds like your one of the fortunate ones, at least as far as manpower goes. I am also impressed on the pre-determined assignments, prior to arrival. I would think this makes the scene run somewhat seamless. If you call organized chaos "seamless"!

Thanks for taking the time to add your input. When I started this thread, I had no idea that so many would respond. I appreciate it since this gives everyone an opportunity to see how it's done elsewhere.

Thanks, California does has chapters, search the foolsinternational.com site to find one. Let me know if I can help!
Thanks Brother!
Greg

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Permalink Reply by Greg Wild on August 10, 2008 at 9:07am

Pete,

It also sounds like department has a plan! Not everyone on here has a department with the ability to put that much equipment on the scene. With manpower seeming to dissolve in some places, it's nice to hear about yourself and Joe that aren't worrying about a shortage if it's burning.

One of our guys we hired about a year ago is from Charlotte, and was a chapter member their (Cory Swenson), do you know him?

Stay Safe Brother
Greg
FTM--PTB

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Permalink Reply by Bryan Downie on August 13, 2008 at 12:42pm

Hey Greg,

I'm in Parma Ohio, largest suburb of Cleveland. 105 full time firefighters, 5 stations

!st alarm assignments are: Single family residential- 2 engine companies, 1 ladder company = 15 firefighters on confirmation of a working fire a 3rd engine company is sent.. Commercial: 3 engine companies and 1 ladder company = 20 firefighters On confirmation of a working fire, 4th engine company or mutual aid.

No predetermined functions for the most part, Unfortunately it varies by shift as each has a different view of our SOP's.

The 3rd engine in should be RIT but to be honest, I can't think of a time when we utilized it. It does not seem to be the priority of the IC's. Too many times we hear, "We got it knocked down so fast there wasn't time".

I am a F.O.O.L. ALthough my chapter NOrth SHore, is inactive. I'm trying to find the time to start a chapter closer to home as I was traveling 40 miles to meetings and such.

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Permalink Reply by David DeStefano on August 13, 2008 at 8:39pm

Hi Greg, In the North Providence Fire Dept. the first alarm to a structure fire gets 3 engines, 1 ladder co., a squad (our heavy rescue) and a B.C. Upon transmiting a working fire an extra engine and EMS unit are automatically special called. If the extra engine is not immediately put to work it acts as the FAST co. All first alarm companies go to work following our SOPs .

Stay safe,
Dave

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