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Impact of the UL Study on Ventilation and Fire Behavior

December 10, 2010 UL issued their finding of a study titled "Impact of Ventilation on Fire Behavior in legacy and Contemporary Residential Construction".

There has been a few articles written, on-line training from UL, an excellent class at FDIC 2011 and a few discussions that I have seen read and taken part in surrounding the UL study. Jerry Knapp wrote a good 2 1/2 page article http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/2011/06/ul-vent-study.html urging each of us to read, learn and train off of the data presented by UL from this study.

So now that this study was issued just over 8 months ago I have a few questions for all of you regarding this study.

Are you aware of the study?

Have you read the executive summary? http://www.ul.com/global/documents/offerings/industries/buildingmat...

Have you read the 405 page study? http://www.ul.com/global/documents/offerings/industries/buildingmat...

Have you discussed the study with your crew at the kitchen table or during training?

Have you changed your tactics based on the study?

Have you trained and practiced getting water onto a fire with 100 seconds for a 1 story home and 200 seconds for a two story home?

Do you feel the fire service will learn from this valuable study and apply the skills learned to ventilate today's fires?

I ask these questions in an effort to open the discussion surrounding this report. I would venture to say that many of you have not read the entire report. So my goal with this post is to start the conversation so we can all learn from each other and begin to train and apply the valuable information documented by UL. Please understand that the following discussions can not replace the necessity for you to read the study. Yes, its 405 pages and its allot of information to digest. But we must each read and learn what has been published to keep each of us and our crews safer.

So how about it, who's up for some good spirited conversation so we can each learn from each other?

Tags: Behavior, Construction, Contemporary, Fire, Residential, Study, UL, Ventilation

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Permalink Reply by Michael Dombroski on August 24, 2011 at 4:12pm

As requested, information about an excellent book which covers this subject over 2 chapters:

Title: Euro Firefighter

Author: Paul Grimwood FIFireE

Published by: Jeremy Mills Publishing, UK

Available from Amazon Books (www.amazon.com)

Ed Hartin wrote the foreward too, so it must be good!

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Permalink Reply by Kelly Wingert on August 24, 2011 at 10:01pm

I will keep an eye out for it. Actually, I will send an email to the university asking if they could get a PPA class for WFS.

John Kriska said:

Right now I am in Michigan but I stay in St Louis during the winter months (Too much snow in Michigan for me). No classes scheduled at this time. I do teach at Winter Fire School but as yet no request yet from UMC. Don't know if I will be at WFS 2012. Thanks for inquiring.

Kelly Wingert said:
John, do you teach your PPV/PPA class any where near Misouri? I'm lookin for a class to attend. If PPA is as good as what I've heard, I think it might be something for us.

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Permalink Reply by John Kriska on August 25, 2011 at 10:18am

Kelly: That will work, thanks

Kelly Wingert said:

I will keep an eye out for it. Actually, I will send an email to the university asking if they could get a PPA class for WFS.

John Kriska said:
Right now I am in Michigan but I stay in St Louis during the winter months (Too much snow in Michigan for me). No classes scheduled at this time. I do teach at Winter Fire School but as yet no request yet from UMC. Don't know if I will be at WFS 2012. Thanks for inquiring.

Kelly Wingert said:
John, do you teach your PPV/PPA class any where near Misouri? I'm lookin for a class to attend. If PPA is as good as what I've heard, I think it might be something for us.

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