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I'm looking for input on the Cleveland Load, specifically how/where to add additional lengths. If anyone uses this for their apartment packs, I'm really interested in finding out how you do it. Let me know of any video links on YouTube, etc. We're considering switching over to the Cleveland Load, but we still have a few questions we need answered. We've trained with 100' and it's much better and easier to deploy than how we've been doing it for years, but we have hallways in high-rises that are 300' long. These buildings have two stairwells that each have standpipes. We just need to know what's the best way to add more hose to it for those apartments that are beyond 100'. Do you add it in a smoky hallway, in the stairwell? Thanks for your help.

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Not sure what the Cleveland load is, but we switched to the Bundles and have had awesome sucess with it. I have a Powerpoint of our setup if you are interested.

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Dave:

One of my fellow instructors gave me a link to a YouTube video titled "Cleveland Load". I think it came from the west coast somewhere. If your load is the same w/ just a different name, then I'd be interested in the powerpoint. Thanks for the offer and help.


Dave LeBlanc said:
Not sure what the Cleveland load is, but we switched to the Bundles and have had awesome sucess with it. I have a Powerpoint of our setup if you are interested.

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Yeah it is the same set up. Search youtube for "the bundles" and you will find more on it.

There is one link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kieu1TUpDfU

I will send the Powerpoint in a minute.

Will Anderson said:
Dave:

One of my fellow instructors gave me a link to a YouTube video titled "Cleveland Load". I think it came from the west coast somewhere. If your load is the same w/ just a different name, then I'd be interested in the powerpoint. Thanks for the offer and help.


Dave LeBlanc said:
Not sure what the Cleveland load is, but we switched to the Bundles and have had awesome sucess with it. I have a Powerpoint of our setup if you are interested.

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Here is the Powerpoint. We ended up moving it off the front bumper due to "resistance" by some of the brothers because they lost their trash line. Those that implemented the system were in favor of using the bundle as a trash line.

We make our loop a bit longer, more like 6 to 8 feet. It stores easier where we keep it. We also take a regular roll of hose, male end end, and unroll it to make the bundle. Kind of the opposite as shown in the video.
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Dave:

Thanks so much!

Will

Dave LeBlanc said:
Here is the Powerpoint. We ended up moving it off the front bumper due to "resistance" by some of the brothers because they lost their trash line. Those that implemented the system were in favor of using the bundle as a trash line.

We make our loop a bit longer, more like 6 to 8 feet. It stores easier where we keep it. We also take a regular roll of hose, male end end, and unroll it to make the bundle. Kind of the opposite as shown in the video.

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anytime brother

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We have a similar load that we use for our high rise packs. Our loads are 150' of 1 3/4 line with a fog nozzle. Along with that the pack had a gated wye attached to it already to make the standpipe connection. We have attached a small bag to the pack that has adaptors, wrenches, pair of vice grip wrench. We found that this load works in our areas where we have several motel/hotels, where we can reach the middle of the floor with 2 packs attached to opposite standpipes at opposite ends of the halls.

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Dave, I looked at your powerpoint Brother, if you don't mind I'm going to take that back to work with me, and make a small proposal.

Thanks Bro!
Jeff

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Go for it. that is why I posted it.

Jeff Schwering said:
Dave, I looked at your powerpoint Brother, if you don't mind I'm going to take that back to work with me, and make a small proposal.

Thanks Bro!
Jeff

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Will my department is in the process of switching over from 1 1/2 donut rolled ????????? Which I was against from day 1 to a load called the Denver Load. Very easy to make into bundles of 50-100ft. Easy to carry on the SCBA cylinder.

Ive tried the Cleveland load but I honestly believe the only benefit would be the last 50ft (Nozzle) to be effective.

We also are ion the process of removing the 2 1/2 Fog nozzle to replace with solid bore (NFPA 14) for many reasons. As you see in the pictures it keeps the hands free for other things such as TOOLS. And for those long climbs hold the handrail :L)

You can find the Denver Load on line.
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I don't have any experience with the Cleveland Load, so I'm not much help there, but in regards to extending a line my personal opinion is that you never break and extend a hoseline in a smoked hallway unless you can do so without losing your water supply, (i.e using a breakaway nozzle as your shut off to extend from.) just like you should not enter a single family residence fire with an uncharged line, you should not be on a charged fire floor with a dry line.

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We have tried the Cleaveland on our Skid loads at 150 ft of 13/4 hose with pistol grip nozzles the biggest issue that we've had is using our hotel pack straps they seem to slide around a bit and getting them tight enough to not move is next to impossible. As far as the load itself goes we found it works just as well with 150 ft. as far as know at least 2 of our pumpers still have them in use.

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