Fire Engineering Training Community

Where firefighters come to talk training

I had the privilege of going through a smoke reading class with a great teacher of mine and friend capt. miller with the Salisbury NC,FD.I believe he got the concept from the FDIC convention this year.The concept is really starting to spread here and i recommend all departments try to start using it.As far as painting a better picture of a scene size up,where it's burning,which way it's going and how much fire you have.I guess my discussion is are we behind in using this and if not i can tell you how to get the concept going in your department..

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Check out John Taylor, www.Smokeburns.com. I have gone to several of his lectures and he made a believer out of me. He's a Brit and comes from a different school, but the info and the way he teaches safe operation in the fire building is second to none.

Reply to This

Retired Chief Dave Dodson (Loveland, CO) has been presenting this concept for several years now, and I agree, it's an art that must be reborn in the fire service, especially with new construction and the increaing number of engineered components used in construction. The concept is simple; volume, velocity, density and color. Knowing how to look for laminar vs. turbulent flow and reading the plane of the smoke. We review this concept with our firefighters annually, and it has paid off on a few fires, in detecting the fires location within the structure.

Reply to This

I have taken a reading the smoke class a few years ago at the winter fire school we have here in Iowa. It was a very good class. I think as fiefighters we should be useing this concept in the fire service. I would like to see us at the volunteer fire service I'm on start doing this more often. What did you use to start this concept in your department? Let me know.
Thanks, Adam

Reply to This

I agree that this concept really has great benefit to all of us. I just put together a modified version of this for my own department and believe it is invaluable information to add to our size up evaluation. Adding video links on you-tube has really helped me show the concepts being presented, since some of us don't see quite enough to become more confident in our size up skills. Any ideas and help you can throw at me is appreciated...glad to see this as a topic.

Reply to This

we have also incorporated the reading smoke concept into our trainings several times a year, engine company ops, truck ops, safety and survival and RIT, all have this concept integrated into the lectures, to include photos, vids etc, this way we are constantly refreshing

Reply to This

Reply to This

RSS

A Message From Bobby Halton

Fire Engineering Editor in Chief Bobby Halton
We are excited to have you participate in our discussions and interactive forums. Before you begin posting, please take a moment to read our policy page HERE.

Badge

Loading…

Fire Engineering Features

NFPA 1403 Live-Fire Evolutions at Fire Service Training Centers

Live fire training is an essential part of a firefighter's education, but there are significant differences between training at gas-fired versus non-gas-fired structures. Mike Gurr takes a closer look.

Fire Engineering University: Online Continuing Education for Firefighters

Fire Engineering University is changing the way fire service professionals approach continuing education. Our goal is to provide you with relevant, topical educational content that is easily accessible. For a full listing of courses with descriptions, credits, and fees, go to www.fireengineeringuniversity.com.

New Vehicle Extrication: 2010 Lexus HS250h

The first compact hybrid luxury sedan, this hybrid only model contains several unique features, including numerous air bags. Jason Emery reviews considerations for vehicle rescue operations.

© 2010   Created by fireeng

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Privacy  |  Terms of Service