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Tie off the Halyard! and five minutes later....
Most are taught in FFI to tie off a ladder halyard with a clove hitch prior to allowing personnel to climb the ladder. Do you, now as a line firefighter, actually do this, especially for time critical situations?
Please be honest. I'll admit when I was on the Ladder Co. I didn't in most cases.
Please be honest. I'll admit when I was on the Ladder Co. I didn't in most cases.
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Permalink Reply by Scott Kleinschmidt on -
NOPE!!!!
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Permalink Reply by Scott Kleinschmidt on
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I was also taught stand under the ladder to heal it, 75 degree climbing angle, 4 man raise ( when most our rigs have 3 FF's ) and so on.
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Permalink Reply by Brian Arnold on -
Doesn't usually happen. Occasionally some white helmet walking around looking for something to do may trip over it and tie it off.....hehehe
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Permalink Reply by Ben Fleagle on -
Someone might be trying to tie it, but I'll be running up it already. You've voiced another one of those things that we learn about doing the job, but often don't explain to the young ones until we are faced with the situation and they're standing there screwing around with a clove hitch. Also I think many fire departments still fail to throw ladders enough to think outside the FF 1 box. Ever thrown an extension ladder with "fly-in", ....OOOOH, now you're gonna die! It doesn't have that part in the book!
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Permalink Reply by Jeff Schwering on -
I like to tie a pretty bow, if I had the time. 3 person companies and members who couldn't tie a clove hitch if their life depended on it. Seldom gets done, unless an automatic aid company ties it while my crew is on the roof opening up.
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Permalink Reply by Todd Trudeau on -
Lt. Ciampo from FDNY posted an option in training minutes (season 3) on tying off the lanyard to the bottom rung and leaving it that way for storage and use. Basically you wouldn't have to untie someone else's idea of a clove hitch, which can save a few seconds (or minutes)
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Permalink Reply by Ben Fleagle on
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Todd:
Tying off on the bottom rung and weaving the halyard tail back in was the way I learned. Made sense, you didn't have to spend a lot of time messing around with it. If you had time to tie it, you could use the Bangor Knot, fast simple. BUT IT ISN'T IN IFTSA, .....so folks where I'm at now frowned on that one.
Todd Trudeau said:Lt. Ciampo from FDNY posted an option in training minutes (season 3) on tying off the lanyard to the bottom rung and leaving it that way for storage and use. Basically you wouldn't have to untie someone else's idea of a clove hitch, which can save a few seconds (or minutes)
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